[FFML] [ADMIN] [ANNOUNCEMENT] The end of the FFML

Sat Apr 3 21:57:46 PDT 2021

Well... Damn. Sorry to hear this now.

I LOVE this place, lots. And now, it's going away. Yet -another- thing in 
this life that I have lost now.

https://www.fanficparadise.com/arielschnee/Ariel_Schnee/RL.htm

https://www.fanficparadise.com/arielschnee/sig3.htm

https://www.fanficparadise.com/arielschnee/sig3_main.htm

Email: arielschnee3 at gmail.com / arielschnee at fanficparadise.com / 
weissschnee333 at gmail.com

Phone: Don't Have One

Address: Listed In Bio

For anyone who wants a place to post fics - 
https://www.fanficparadise.com/fpforum-sfw/index.php , and 
https://www.fanficparadise.com/fpforum-nsfw/index.php .

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Carr" <dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net>
To: <ffml at chez-vrolet.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 6:02 PM
Subject: [FFML] [ADMIN] [ANNOUNCEMENT] The end of the FFML

>I suppose there's no easy way of putting it.
>
> After some discussion with the moderators and quite a bit of thought
> over the past few months, I have elected to close the FFML.
>
> There are several reasons for this, but I suppose it can be distilled
> down to two: one is personal, and the other is that time and
> technology march on.
>
> The personal end boils down to no longer having the spoons and having
> to rearrange my life to better serve me.  This is, no doubt, a rather
> small thing to deal with - but as I examine my life in middle age and
> make changes in how I live my life, I'm realizing I have an awful lot
> of such rather small things in my life - and I can either continue on
> how I've been doing, or I can sum up what is needed to continue for
> (hopefully) another 40+ years.  And to be honest, as much as I came to
> love this list in the 24 years since I joined, sometimes one just has
> to let go of that which they love.
>
> To this same end, I honestly haven't been terribly active in anime
> fandom in quite some time.  The last time I did anything, in fact, was
> a "ghost shoot" at Sakura Con in Seattle maybe 13 years ago.  I
> haven't been back since, and would like to go again.  Hell, even a
> story that I started and co-wrote with another author has been sitting
> on my disk and taking up space - I might continue it.  It's called
> Unfinished Business and is a Tenchi Muyo exchange-student story set
> where I once lived in north Orange County, California.  But I digress.
>
> The other reason, though, seems bigger.  It's like I said - time
> and technology march on.
>
> This list was created in the early years of the public internet.  I
> don't know exactly when, as I found the list myself in 1997 when White
> Wolf was still hosting and the pseudo-user Tybalt was used by the mods
> of the time.  In that time since, though, much has changed on the
> network.  Usenet, for instance, is not nearly as widely used as it
> once was, with much of alt.* alone being riddled with spam.  Mailing
> lists came in to fill in the blanks where Usenet would otherwise not
> serve, and while many such lists still exist most have simply fallen
> off.  Even twenty years ago, we started seeing dedicated websites and
> web forums for specific purposes including fanfiction as a whole, and
> in some cases those sites gave way to social media sites such as
> Livejournal and Myspace - which themselves basically gave way to the
> likes of Reddit and Facebook.  Even Yahoogroups - our old standby that
> we used as backup when Phillip Mak passed on 14 years ago and during
> some other server issues over the years - has pretty much been closed
> up.  And all that is just a mere sliver of the progression out here.
> Where I don't deny there is an aspect of not wanting to continue owing
> to these changes in how we work on the internet, this evolution unto
> itself is indeed a large part of what's driving this decision.
>
> To be perfectly clear, this is not at all about the simple fact that
> the traffic on this list has dwindled since even before I took the
> list onto my own server.  The dwindle is just a side effect of the
> evolution.  Long time subscribers will remember that, back when I even
> discovered this list in 1997 or thenabouts, we would regularly see
> upwards of 20 messages per day (and that was a quiet day!) and in some
> cases expect to wait at least an hour before our message got fully
> posted by the fanfic.com server(s).  We were super active back then!
> There was indeed a shift when Phillip took it on, things just slowed
> down.  And yeah, I openly admit that I had some optimism that we would
> see list traffic get to the volume that once was - but that was not
> meant to be, despite the "hello world" flurry of posts in July of 2007
> as the boxes were notionally unpacked here.  Either way, to reinforce
> - the lack of traffic in and of itself is not a driver in this
> decision.  That lack of traffic is just a side effect of what has come
> to be.
>
> It's not an easy decision for me to make.  But as much as I have come
> to love this list, it's time to call it a day.  This email list, by
> and large, has served its purpose and served it well.
>
> As of the time I am sending this email, I have changed list settings
> to simply reject posts from anyone who is not a member (previous
> settings were to hold email for moderator intervention).  ffml-admins
> will retain its current settings and will remain live for the
> duration, so if you need to ping us off list then please don't
> hesitate to do so.
>
> In keeping with the 14th anniversary of opening the list on
> chez-vrolet.net, I will close this list completely on the evening of
> July 1, 2021.  The archive will be packed up as it exists, and I will
> have it available for download as a zip file until January 1, 2022.
> The mirrors, as linked in the FAQ, will remain online at the
> prerogative of their respective hosts.  I don't run those, and I don't
> get to tell 'em what to do. =)
>
> The usual rules will still apply in the meantime, of course.  The
> moderator team will remain in place for the duration of the closure
> period, and you are welcome to continue to use the list as it has been
> used since time(t) = minus infinity - but going forward we are now
> officially allowing the posting of links to "plug" yourself and how to
> make contact aside from email once the list goes dark.  So that we may
> keep in contact, I encourage you to share this information.  Mine, as
> such, is below.
>
> Oh.  One last note, because since getting this domain in 2003 I've
> seen three people who pronounce it correctly aside from my ex wife and
> I (and I gotta spell it every bloody time!) - and I don't know who
> here has figured it out.
>
> It's pronounced "SHAY vro-LAY". =D
>
> Thank you, everyone, for being here.
>
> -Dennis Carr
> (soon to be former list op)
> PO Box 6
> Bothell, WA 98041
> dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net
> http://chez-vrolet.net/~dennisthetiger
> https://www.facebook.com/dennisthetiger/
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