Subject: [FFML] Re: Is anyone else having this problem?
From: "Sebastian Palm" <sebastian.palm@myrealbox.com>
Date: 6/30/2006, 12:35 PM
To: "'ffml'" <ffml@anifics.com>



-----Original Message-----
From: ffml-bounce@anifics.com [mailto:ffml-bounce@anifics.com] On Behalf
Of wlit0613
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:08 PM
To: Eric Holdt; ffml
Subject: [FFML] Re: Is anyone else having this problem?

It's not just you. I missed the DB Summer fic, though I'm getting Suiren.

William

Since I'm not just chiming in here, I think I may be excused for posting to
the topic...

There are two rather common causes for missing message syndrome - one is
that your copy of the message got eaten by a spam filter somewhere, either
locally (check your spam bin - and never auto-delete spam without giving the
bylines a onceover!), or server side (ask your ISP if they filter, and see
if you can get them to turn them off for you if they do - client side
adaptive filters will be lots more effective if they're allowed to sample
the trash your ISP rules out for you).

The other common cause is that the message has simply gotten stuck in a send
queue somewhere, and will arrive sooner or later. Sometimes messages I
*know* never arrived turn up in my folder when I check back two or three
days later.

There are a few other issues with filtering that may be of interest to both
readers and posters to the list, that I'll bring up here while I'm at it:
stuff that can break user filters mainly.

To start with, most mailing lists can be filtered into their own folders by
the simple expedient of adding "to: mailing list" as a filter argument. This
doesn't work completely for the FFML, however - since one of the mail
headers for the list autosets follow-ups to the original sender. This means
that a simple "reply" will go to the original sender only. "Reply to all" is
implemented differently on different clients, and sometimes sends the reply
both to the original sender and the mailing list, and sometimes to the
original sender with a carbon copy (CC:) to the mailing list. The latter
will break recipient-based filters, and cause some list mail to not get
filtered properly.

Another method of filtering list traffic is to filter by sender - all
messages to the list are actually sent "from" ffml-bounce@anifics.com, which
makes this a better idea than filtering by "to" ffml@anifics.com. Filtering
by this will also leave private copies (results of a reply-to-all) and
private replies in the inbox, rather than in the FFML folder. Handy at least
for not having to clean out doubles from your FFML folder.

Lastly, if anyone is still reading this, let me add a small plea: Please,
don't just hit the "reply-to-all" button and just leave all the junk in the
to: and cc: fields - a list reply only needs to go to ffml@anifics.com, not
to both the original sender, whoever he was replying to, and whoever *that*
person was replying to, etc as well as the list. Editing the To: and Cc:
headers takes five seconds - less if you have an autocompleting client - and
saves a bunch of well-spread annoyment. A large number of separately
declared recipients is also a major reason for getting caught in spam
filters and summarily ignored.

SP



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