Subject: [FFML] Re: Another De-Lurker
From: Gary Kleppe
Date: 6/16/2006, 2:22 PM
To: ffml@anifics.com

Quoting Bob Schroeck <rms@eclipse.net>:

That depends.  I believe I am the only "pro" left on the FFML; many
of the the rest left because they no longer felt comfortable here.
I can understand this completely, because I know for a fact, from
experience, that list admin can and has responded with active
hostility to any suggestion that I might talk about my pro works.
(Obligatory pre-reflexive tempban disclaimer:  I have *no*
professionally-published products in the pipeline at the moment.
I am *not* advertising.)  The other pros who left may not have felt
"used", but I can assure you that they were made to feel *unwelcome*.

-- Bob, who realizes that just admitting he's a pro with a backlist
might get him nailed for "advertising"

Look, you were tempbanned for actively exhorting people on the list to  
buy something you'd written.

You obviously don't think that was fair. But it's ridiculous to  
extrapolate that any mentioning of professional works will get one  
banned. It's like getting a parking ticket and concluding that the  
police are out to get anyone who owns a car.

Mentioning professional work: Okay.
Asking people to buy that work: Not okay.

I've more to say, but I think I'd better take it private at this  
point, or we'll have *two* admins serving out tempbans. :/



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