Scott Schimmel wrote:
Kazuya is probably more *proficient* and skillful with his powers
because he's had more practice, but there's no evidence in either
the manga or the anime (or even those Shin-KOR novels) that Kazuya
is *more powerful* than Kyosuke. In fact, there's lots of evidence
to the contrary.
I initially read this as typical Kyousuke underconfidence. He just
doesn't -act- or -think- like the strongest ESPer of his generation,
even though he (probably) -is-.
This is my belief as well. Yes, Kyosuke is wishy-washy and underconfident,
but I absolutely never saw his raw power as lacking.
"Message in Rouge" (the only significant story w/ Ayukawa's parents
that I know of) doesn't support this. It might be my interpretation,
and that one story alone isn't positive proof, but I never saw any
actual evidence of this in either the manga or anime.
This is the alternate universe, though, and all sorts of things have
changed -there-. Just look at Komatsu and Hatta. I didn't find it so
unbelievable. (I was more worried that Kyousuke automatically assumed
the same would apply to his Madoka, actually... an assumption that
seems to be borne out by the end of the fic, unfortunately.)
This was my point. Yes, in an alternate universe, anything is possible. I
just didn't feel that evidence in the "real" universe supported Ayukawa
being unwanted by family.
Let's see now...
Manami, Kurumi, Akane, his father, two grandpa-class guys...
No way. No way in heck can Kazuya beat or even come close to
matching this group. Hell, *Grandpa* at full strength ould be
hard-pressed to do so.
[more reasoning deleted]
Scott Shimmel suggests that it may be required for dramatic
necessity,
Actually, just to clarify, I don't. That's just the only explanation
I could come up with that would allow Kazuya to win in that situation.
That's why I'd suggested making it just the twins and Akane. (And the
elders could show up later to do the memory-wiping...)
I could believe that a more-practiced Kazuya could beat Akane (who has
little combat-useful power) and Manami (who has less practice than
anyone else in the family) and even Kurumi (who does have power and
practice but isn't bloodthirsty) all at once. Maybe even his father,
too, thanks to the surprise, though that's pushing it. More than
that, and I just can't buy it.
Yes, if it was just Manami, Kurumi, Akane and Kazuya's father, I'd buy
this. It's just having Kazuya beat two additional guys at Grandpa's level
that bugged me.
Whoa, whoa, whoa...So Kazuya is so powerful, he can control
half-a-dozen ESPers, all of whom have as much or more
experience/power etc than Kyosuke, but Kyosuke alone can challenge
him?
Kyousuke is the hero. ^_^
Seriously... I'd agree that Kyousuke would be a major challenge for
Kazuya... but it seems to me that in this situation Kazuya just
wouldn't have anything left. Kyousuke just performed a major feat?
Well, Kazuya just fought a protracted psychic battle against some very
powerful ESPers, and is still having to hold them captive. If
Kyousuke is -that- angry, Kazuya is as good as dead. (And mightn't
the elders break free while he's marshalling his remaining power to
fight Kyousuke?)
Fully agree here. Kazuya and Kyosuke would be about on equal footing with
regard to fatigue and recent usage.
And as his panic and confusion grew, one of Kyosuke's attacks
broke through. For just a second, Kyosuke had him and held him
still.
He should do a lot more than that, given that his "unchecked anger"
and what he's gone through.
This is true. And just how is non-telepathic Kyousuke fighting off a
telepathic attack, come to think of it?
I assumed TK here (Richard is free to disagree of course). But if he's got
a TK grip on Kazuya, why just "hold him still". Yes, Kyosuke is normally a
gentle soul, but with all that he went through, I just don't see the
restraint not to crush him to jelly.
Statistically speaking, it's highly unlikely Madoka is a Christian
(referring to her last line). Shinto and Buddism are the two
dominate religions in Japan.
She's quoting, though. Shakespeare?
Richard already corrected me. Patrick Henry. Which leads to questions on
why not quote from a famous Japanese source instead of a US source, but
that's getting way off topic I guess.
[...]
Who was "she"? Given that this is a parallel universe (that
apparently has no Madoka), it's quite plausible that there might not
be a Hikaru either.
Well, with no Madoka, Sayuri was never interested, I'd assume... so
that leaves Hikaru or... um, the other girl whose name I forget. His
childhood friend. Though if it were that other girl, that would be an
interesting twist...
My impression was Richard was implying Hikaru (with the dance bit) and
Richard has since confirmed this. But I just pointed out that it *could
have been* anyone, including someone we never met.
Stephen Tsai |Kimagure Orange College #39
#39 is being quoted? Hope to see it soon. ^_^
#38 should hit beta very soon (see my preview page if you can't wait). #39
isn't that done, but I have a firm idea on what the plot is, hence the
quote.
Stephen Tsai
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